Hey Joe! What new and great things are you going to tackle in "11" next? You should "borrow" some of the cool stuff in Smalltalk Seaside and GemStone's MagLev app. Cheers! -- Kevin

Nice news! By the way, it's mostly needed project on the web today, because DB+Web give us far avay from platforms holy wars, very bad java attempts to be the main web-language and so on. May be it will be a good idea to add support to Programming Languages, that are stable both in conceptions and releases way. Personally, I don't like perl, but it meets both criterias. Raby? Python? PHP is widely used, but it often changes unpredictable ways.

Hey, this seems like a great framework. When will it be ported to a more mainstream language, such as Ruby? ;-) Seriously, the ideas in Eleven are great for applications that would traditionally be command-line interface based, and I really hope you pick up development of it. It reminds me of some attempts I have seen to automatically create web apps from R code.

Hi Joe. Just checking in on your pet project. How does Eleven relate to script.aculo.us and seaside, or are they unrelated? Cheers Kevin

As you can see, Eleven fully supports all 26 letters of the alphabet :-) It's true - I have not had time to work on this project in over two years, but hope to renovate the web site and code base by summer 2008. Stay tuned.

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

I wonder if this project is continues. Documentation is from Feb. 2005. The concept seems very good. But has the project been finished?

I am very impressed! I was searching for a user interface toolkit to help in developing internal application needing to interface with a database and found your project. Looks very powerful and I look forward to trying it out.

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What are the dependencies of Eleven? I would like install it in an Ubuntu machine. Regards

Hey great software, congratulations. It seems very easy to use to develop web applications. I have tried to develop an easy application and what I find most difficult is that if you have an error in your code it is very difficult to find it out. The compiler doesn't tell you where the error is. Congratulations!! John.

Hello Jon, I'm not sure what you mean by a webhost exactly. Eleven generates complete PHP or mod_perl programs that can be deployed on any web hosting service that supports PHP (or mod_perl) and MySQL. Hope that helps.

do web hosts support Eleven ? Is this something that can be added to a webhost ?

ok ok. Read the docs. I'm happy.

Is "Eleven" a spinal tap reference thing? If so, Cheers!

We need an officially sponsored "Powered by ELEVEN" image for websites. Something flashy! Maybe even a flash button to point back to this site.

Wow... Great work Joe! Looks like the Eleven community is really coming along. It seems that Eleven is starting to meet the needs of two areas. One a system where tracking the state at all times is critical and two a rapid development system where data management is the focus.

I had a look around the TXL web site. It looks very interesting, and more flexible and powerful than Bison, which is what I used for the Eleven compiler. Thanks for your comments!

Joe, After taking a look at Eleven source code I was happy to find some scheme power in the background. Scheme is a great language for source transformation, but I also wanted to give a URL for an interesting language I found geared for compiling one language into another. http://www.txl.ca Btw, Eleven is very nice looking. I haven't had a project to use it for yet, though I am still looking. =) Regards, M

My Demo of eleven: An Amateur Radio Application for logging contacts and surfing the web while working other stations. http://gfaus.gfaus.com/eleven/demoqsolog.php I'm a believer in the power of eleven for sure!

Hi Rick. The demos on this web site run a little slowly, as they are hosted on SourceForge's web site and database servers. For a commercial installation it's important to make sure the database server has enough capacity and memory, in which case the applications run quite quickly and crisply. Eleven doesn't provide any special support for referential integrity, but constraints can be defined and enforced in the database. Thanks for your comments!

Looks interesting, but executes a little slow, or is that just the server? Also, I noticed a lack referential integrity in order demo. 1) created new customer 2) created order for that customer 3) viewed the order for that customer 4) removed the customer from the customer list 5) order still there with no customer, just the item In spite of this looks interesting. I hope to try it out and see what kind of php it generates. Sometimes these code generators create strange code no human would ever come up with!

Very nice! As a Mac user I had the bugs noted in the INSTALL text, but a few symlinks to the correct guile version (from fink) and I was cooking with gas. I recently had a non-profit ask me to make them a web based DE system. Now I can give them something nice quickly.

Me parece un lenguaje increible...lo estoy probando..y al verdad que es bien practico...gracias por compartir esta gran herramienta. Fredy Gonzales ( Lima - Peru )

Many thanks for the positive feedback. I'll work on some improved architecture documentation - that's a great idea.

Incredible. Schmeme work seems awesome. I have not tried it yet (im emerging guile), but this seems to be very powerfull. A suggestion: detailing architecture in the documentation section would be very useful for further contributions, i think a simple graphic blocks scheme would help developers understanding how this works at a glance, rather than reading the source code. Congratulations!

Wow, combined with some css "hax0r skillz" this seems indeed very powerfull. Nice work.

I think that it is a wonderful project! I have being pogramming in PHP during 4 hours to make something very trivial. With Eleven it would have cost less effort! I'm going to give it a test.

Please post technical questions to the mailing list at eleven-devinfo@lists.sourceforge.net, not the bulletin board. This board should be used only for general remarks about Eleven. Many thanks.

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I have installed eleven on windows server 2003, I decompress eleven to d:\programe files\evlen then edit c11.bat "SET ELEVEN=D:\Program Files\Eleven" then copy it to c:\windows and make a test file display { print ("Test."); } From a command window c11 test.11 but it occured an error: ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path but i still find the ice-9/boot-9.scm in the d:\program files\elven\Compiler what's wrong? my email: takeit1979@yahoo.com.cn i'm from china, please contact me.

ok that was easy ! sorry for the noise.

hi, how can I add a link (<a href="...">) into my eleven-generated page ? thank you, samuel